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Rock10 |
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Extreme SMF Posts: 181 | Blood and Bullets 2.5/5 Stand by for Pain 1.5/5 Never Let the Bastards Wear You Down 1.5/5 Desperado 1.5/5 | ||
Lorndog |
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Extreme SMF Posts: 155 Location: SCOTLAND | First of all, Blood and Bullets and Stand by for Pain, were not solo albums, they were by the band Widowmaker. Secondly, Desperado was also a band. Thirdly, are you taking the piss, with those reviews!! Especially, Blood and Bullets, thats a kick ass album!! You can't be much of a Dee fan, talking that kinda shit, my friend. | ||
Evel |
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Extreme SMF Posts: 158 | Dude Got to agree with Lorndog....you cannot be serious with those numbers...... Here is my 2c worth.... The 1st Widowmaker is the best material Dee ever came up with. Should have been the next TS album. TS should redo it themselves ( play it really loud to see what I mean....) So...Blood and Bullets....5/5 Saying that...never got into the second CD.....2/5 Personally, I love his solo CD....its my review on Amazon. Go read it.....4/5 As for Desperado...more inovative than all his other material, more varied material, more intricate. Some of it cropped up on later CD's. Some great stuff on there if you give it a chance. Again, I put up a review on Amazon.....4/5. All this is post TS. There is only one true solo CD. I take it you mean solo from TS? Still...I dont understand why you marked them down so badly? Emaheevul (opening track on Blood and Bullets) is so rockin' its almost frightening!! Desperado (from the "Bastards solo CD) is so TS its nuts. How can you not like 'em?? Whats not to like?? Puzzled. Evel Phx Az. Edited by Evel 2012-05-12 8:50 AM | ||
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Nearly A Band Member Posts: 944 | Blood and Bullets 5/5 Stand by for Pain 4/5 Never Let the Bastards Wear You Down 4.5/5 Desperado 4/5 | ||
Vim Fuego |
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Extreme SMF Posts: 107 | Blood and Bullets 4 Stand by for Pain 2 Never Let the Bastards Wear You Down 1.5 Desperado 4.5 That said, I've wondered about Dee's song choices for the Bastards (the only real solo) record. I mean there were so many really good left over songs from Stay Hungry and Love is For Suckers sessions... | ||
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Nearly A Band Member Posts: 717 Location: Chicago | Blood and Bullets 4/5 Stand by for Pain 2/5 Never Let the Bastards Wear You Down 4.5/5 Desperado 4/5 Dee Does Broadway 3.5/5 It's tough for me to give a perfect 5 of 5 for many albums. You Can't Stop Rock and Roll is a 5 out of 5 for me and none of Dee's non-Twisted albums match up to that so I have to take that into account. Bastards is definitely my favorite Dee solo/side project album with Blood and Bullets a very strong 2nd. I'm honestly not a hug fan of Stand By For Pain. It's the heaviest album Dee's done in my opinion (which I like) but it lacks the hooks and melodies that Dee is such a master at. And nobody included Dee Does Broadway so I had to throw that one in here although that one's a little tough since I'm still digesting it. That score may change over time once I've really taken it in I'm digging it out of the gate. | ||
Rock10 |
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Extreme SMF Posts: 181 | Those bands were known as Dee's solo bands, and he wrote most of the material by himself. Blood and Bullets wasn't great, and I don't like the hair band choruses. It makes it sound like 80's music. 1)Emaheevu-Good 2)The Widowmaker-Good 3)Evil-Ok 4)The Lonely Ones-ok 5)Reason To Kill-Good 6)Snot Nose Kid-Bad 7)Blood And Bullets-Bad 8)Gone Bad-ok 9)Blue For You-Bad 10)You're A Heartbreaker-Bad 11)Calling For You-Good, but the Desperado version was better. 12)We Are The Dead-Bad | ||
Lorndog |
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Extreme SMF Posts: 155 Location: SCOTLAND | He wrote all of Twisted's albums, does that make the Sister Dee's solo band? I think not dude! As for saying Snot Nosed Kid and Blood and Blood and Bullets are bad songs, you must be fucking deaf! Quit eating paint chips, my friend!! | ||
Rock10 |
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Extreme SMF Posts: 181 | Lorndog - 2012-05-12 4:00 PM He wrote all of Twisted's albums, does that make the Sister Dee's solo band? I think not dude! As for saying Snot Nosed Kid and Blood and Blood and Bullets are bad songs, you must be fucking deaf! Quit eating paint chips, my friend!! Twisted Sister wasn't formed by Dee, and Dee had total control over Widowmaker. | ||
Vim Fuego |
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Extreme SMF Posts: 107 | "I don't like the hair band choruses. It makes it sound like 80's music." That's a weird thing to say if you're a Sister fan | ||
tssmf4lyfe |
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Nearly A Band Member Posts: 944 | Vim Fuego - 2012-05-13 4:29 AM "I don't like the hair band choruses. It makes it sound like 80's music." That's a weird thing to say if you're a Sister fan exactly | ||
Rock10 |
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Extreme SMF Posts: 181 | Vim Fuego - 2012-05-13 4:29 AM "I don't like the hair band choruses. It makes it sound like 80's music." That's a weird thing to say if you're a Sister fan Those choruses sounded like late 80's bands on the first Widowmaker cd. | ||
Armadillo |
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Road Reporter Posts: 1729 Location: Baltimore, MD | geez....you guys left off the best Dee solo album ever.... Love Is For Suckers! (Wow. I said it.) As a Dee solo album, I give it a 3/5 Wake Up the Sleeping Giant was worth the price alone. As a Twisted album, I must confess it is my least favorite effort. I do still play it--it is actually really good driving music-- I have been known to skip "hot love". Of course, for me, it's more about what the albums symbolize than the music itself-- LIFS was the end of TS in the 80's, and for many years, I couldn't play the album. | ||
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Nearly A Band Member Posts: 1321 Location: on a Twisted planet | First of all, they're not Dee's solo albums... and if you're calling them like that, ''STAND BY FOR PAIN'' is the most progressive thing Dee did back then, together with the Inconclusion song from Strangeland soundtrack. I like the second Widowmaker album more, AND i LOVE the Desperado record. Dee's solo album from 2000, i adore that one Oh and, i think i like Widowmaker, Desperado and Dee's solo album, more then LIFS. (i love LIFS too but those albums got stronger material) | ||
Rock10 |
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Extreme SMF Posts: 181 | Macedonian SMF - 2012-05-18 6:16 PM First of all, they're not Dee's solo albums... and if you're calling them like that, ''STAND BY FOR PAIN'' is the most progressive thing Dee did back then, together with the Inconclusion song from Strangeland soundtrack. I like the second Widowmaker album more, AND i LOVE the Desperado record. Dee's solo album from 2000, i adore that one Oh and, i think i like Widowmaker, Desperado and Dee's solo album, more then LIFS. (i love LIFS too but those albums got stronger material) They were Dee's bands. | ||
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Nearly A Band Member Posts: 772 | Widowmaker Music ROCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dee writes Great Music period... Theres only a few in his whole catalog I don't care for maybe 2 or 3. SMFF | ||
Rock10 |
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Extreme SMF Posts: 181 | fountainfan - 2012-05-18 8:36 PM Widowmaker Music ROCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dee writes Great Music period... Theres only a few in his whole catalog I don't care for maybe 2 or 3. SMFF The first four TS albums were better than any of his solo albums. | ||
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Nearly A Band Member Posts: 891 Location: Dream Street | Jesus Christ....jump down the dude's throat and set up tent, why don't ya? I feel like I'm reading youtube responses(well...moaybe not THAT bad). First off, so...fucking....what...if he said "Dee's solo albums"??? It's a given what he meant. And for fans of a band that preached to be an individual and not care what anyone else thinks..shame on you guys. Who friggin cares if someone doesn't like Dee's music? Summon the powers from above! It's fuckin sacrilege!!! Some of you people make me fuckin sick. No wonder I find myself stopping by here less and less. It's such a turn off. If we don't kiss Dee's ass and suck Twisted's dick some of y'all get so bent out of shape which in turn bends me out of shape. And this is the pissfire that ensues. As far as I'm concerned "Stand By For Pain" is absolutely incredible and showcases some of the best work Dee's ever written. It blows away "Blood and Bullets"(although I do like that album quite a bit...it's a kick ass pile driver of aggression...but it doesn't compare to SBFP). Tho for the simple minded Twisted fan who can't appreciate higher production value, more complicated progressions & sophisticated lyrics, it's no wonder "Blood and Bullets" suits you more. | ||
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Extreme SMF Posts: 155 Location: SCOTLAND | First up, why go on Twisted Sister's website, to slag Dee off? (B). Why does loving Widowmaker, Desperado etc. and saying so, amount to kissing Dee's ass (Let alone sucking anyones dick!!)? (4). Why do you feel the need to post abuse, towards other SMF's? No ones response on this thread comes across as insulting or hostile. I, personally don't give a flying fuck, if having a difference of opinion from anyone upsets them, or gets them, "bent outta shape!" I also don't give a fuck, if my opinion makes you sick! As for being referred to as simple minded; I'll go head to head with your intellect anytime, my friend and I won't be the one out of my depth! Twisted and their fans have always gone against the grain and not given a shit, about what anyone else thinks, but that's not the same as standing up to some dickhead, with an attitude problem! Do you think Rock10 would have the balls to tell Dee to his face that he sucks; I highly doubt it! Maybe your just having a bad day, but believe me there's far more important things to get worked up over!! Regards, Lorndog. | ||
Armadillo |
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Road Reporter Posts: 1729 Location: Baltimore, MD | Gentlemen, gentlemen.... I didn't see a lot of real hostility (well, only on the other thread that spawned this one, but THAT one deserved it...) this seemed like a debate with some ribbing...so Jaysin, don't really know why this thread upset you so much. Your post was probably the harshest one on this thread. From what I understand (and I could be wrong) but I don't think Dee reads the slamboard much. Jay Jay, MAM, sometimes Eddie and AJ as well as many of the crew...DO read the slamboard So while I'm not suggesting we sugar coat our commentary and feedback, I think there is a certain amount of respect due to them....this IS their website and their slamboard. Jaysin-- I have written almost 50 road reports, and not all of them were brilliant shows---and I was honest about it without being mean or vicious. There are plenty of band websites out there that don't give their fans a chance to "voice off" and talk to one another--and how many times has Jay Jay personally responded to posts that we have made here? It's perfectly okay to say you didn't like an album and say why.... but coming on the TS website and saying "That sucked" is just plain disrespectful, and I'm glad that some of the SMFs on here jumped in. Your comments on the solo projects were totally valid--I'm sorry that you feel like you can't voice those opinions here. I've said it many times--it's not what you say, it's how you say it. But yanno....I'm with Lorndog. I don't go on the Motley Crue website and trash Vince Neil... and for the record, I'm an SMF, not a groupie. I haven't sucked anyone's dick. | ||
Rock10 |
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Extreme SMF Posts: 181 | Armadillo and Lorndog, I rated Dee's solo albums, and I didn't say that they sucked. I just gave a number. I don't think his solo albums were good, especially compared to Twisted Sister's albums. | ||
Rock10 |
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Extreme SMF Posts: 181 | Lorndog - 2012-05-19 4:17 PM First up, why go on Twisted Sister's website, to slag Dee off? (B). Why does loving Widowmaker, Desperado etc. and saying so, amount to kissing Dee's ass (Let alone sucking anyones dick!!)? but that's not the same as standing up to some dickhead, with an attitude problem! Do you think Rock10 would have the balls to tell Dee to his face that he sucks; I highly doubt it! Regards, Lorndog. I can say what I want on the board about Dee's albums. | ||
Rock10 |
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Extreme SMF Posts: 181 | Jaysin - 2012-05-19 1:24 PM Jesus Christ....jump down the dude's throat and set up tent, why don't ya? I feel like I'm reading youtube responses(well...moaybe not THAT bad). First off, so...fucking....what...if he said "Dee's solo albums"??? It's a given what he meant. And for fans of a band that preached to be an individual and not care what anyone else thinks..shame on you guys. Who friggin cares if someone doesn't like Dee's music? Summon the powers from above! It's fuckin sacrilege!!! Thanks | ||
Armadillo |
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Road Reporter Posts: 1729 Location: Baltimore, MD | Rock10 - 2012-05-19 9:36 PM Armadillo and Lorndog, I rated Dee's solo albums, and I didn't say that they sucked. I just gave a number. I don't think his solo albums were good, especially compared to Twisted Sister's albums. Agree That was my point--you didn't say anything bad- I thought you just voiced your opinion in a non-confrontational way---(someone else did say "it sucked" on a different thread, and I DID jump on him for it) Should have made that clearer--sorry. | ||
SMF Cyndi |
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Location: Graveyard BLVD. | I really enjoy hearing all Dee's solo albums. What I find amazing is the "attitude" in his vocals....ever changing.....you can feel the anger pour out of him in so many of the songs. I have my favorites but I really love them all. Hard for me to rate them. Even when I hear the live shows the emotion you hear in his onstage rants were NOT a show, it was truthfully what was going on in his life at the time. That is what I feel anyway.... I can't always express "simply" in words what I want to say.....it's more what I feel inside...etc... | ||
MetalMadLady |
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Nearly A Band Member Posts: 378 Location: York, PA | I LOVE THEM ALL!!!!!!!!!! | ||
Armadillo |
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Road Reporter Posts: 1729 Location: Baltimore, MD | Hey Cyndi That is so true-- Have you read the book yet? Dee wrote that when he wrote LIFS, everything in his life was going really well....he lost his angry edge and wasn't coming from a place of raw emotion, which certainly explains the upbeat/pop feeling that LIFS has....and the angry, raw energy of his solo projects to follow. | ||
Armadillo |
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Road Reporter Posts: 1729 Location: Baltimore, MD | Hey Cyndi That is so true-- Have you read the book yet? Dee wrote that when he wrote LIFS, everything in his life was going really well....he lost his angry edge and wasn't coming from a place of raw emotion, which certainly explains the upbeat/pop feeling that LIFS has....and the angry, raw energy of his solo projects to follow. | ||
George |
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Nearly A Band Member Posts: 2072 | I knew i liked Cyndi | ||
SMF Cyndi |
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Location: Graveyard BLVD. | Hi T, Thanks....I got the book and cd in the mail Friday but didn't get to read the book as of yet. I did listen to the cd and love it! Dee's vocals give each song an "edge" that's for sure. One song {forgot which one} I cracked up as I yelled MORE COW BELL...LMAO....that was great! {made me think of a Saturday Night Live skit...haha} I would like to add that even if I don't like an aspect of the boyzzz projects, I am a SMF...friend/fan 4life. I would never openly slam them. I will always be supportive no matter what. And if I do have something to say it would never be done in a malcious way, that is where constructive critism is welcome, being an adult comes in to play. Talking privately is different, then you can be more open to friends about how ya feel, I see no need then to do it publicly, what would be the goal other than making yourself look foolish. Armadillo - 2012-05-20 4:16 PM Hey Cyndi That is so true-- Have you read the book yet? Dee wrote that when he wrote LIFS, everything in his life was going really well....he lost his angry edge and wasn't coming from a place of raw emotion, which certainly explains the upbeat/pop feeling that LIFS has....and the angry, raw energy of his solo projects to follow. Edited by SMF Cyndi 2012-05-21 7:16 PM | ||
SMF Cyndi |
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Location: Graveyard BLVD. | Oh "G"...you are too sweeeeeeeet! ȏᴥȏ Thanks! I have my moments...just never in writing...LOL.... George - 2012-05-21 10:38 AM I knew i liked Cyndi | ||