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| Attention all S.M.F.’s,
Upon the recommendation of a dedicated S.M.F. by the name of (the real) Joe Rock (thank you, Joe for suggesting I do this), I want to take a moment to explain why you never find me visiting the TS slamboard. The answer is pretty simple: I obsess on negative postings.
Those of you who have seen me perform in the heyday will remember my obsession with getting people in the audience to react. I would spend entire shows searching out those in attendance who were not reacting and berate them endlessly until they either left, got into a fight with me or joined the “twisted celebration.” This was not an act. It is, was and still is my sickness. I would sacrifice entire shows--ignoring thousands of adoring fans--to go after one guy or girl who I felt was dissing me and the band.
When I go to a message board, I can read a thousand positive postings, but it will be the one negative slam that will stick with me for days after and occupy my mind. Why? I’m not sure. But it doesn’t make me feel good at all. And flame throwing assholes don’t deserve even a moment of my time. But I always give it to them.
Now back in the day, I thrived on that same anger and couldn’t wait for the next confrontation...but not anymore. After all those dysfunctional years, I’m enjoying being happy and well adjusted. But it doesn’t take much to set me off and bring me right back.
Now those of you who have seen me perform in recent years have witnessed none of that old Dee Snider hostility...and there have been more then a few people in attendance who weren’t “getting into it.” Well, in the past I would go out of my way to find those people in the crowd and tear them apart, but these days I don’t even bother to look for them and focus on the majority of you who are fired up to see the band. And I’m much happier this way.
But it’s not as easy to do that with the Slam Board. One has to read a posting to find out its contents and by the time I realize that a posting is negative, I’m sucked into the message and wasting valuable time and energy on people who don’t even deserve to be acknowledged. If I don’t read the negative messages, their mission has failed. The only way to achieve this is to not read any messages at all.
I’m sorry for that. I know you love me. I love you guys, too. There’s just no other way. I hope you understand.
Once a S.M.F., always a S.M.F.,
Dee Snider 8/06 |
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Elite SMF
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Location: USA | dee,
i dont know what to say, just wanted the first reply to be a positive one, cant wait for detroit. stay sick joe rock |
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Nearly A Band Member
Posts: 680
 
Location: MARS | Rock On DEE!!!!! I understand where you are coming from about the negitive posts. I used to be like that, well, I mean anybody that said anything bad about me it would stick on me like a monkey on my back. We love ya anyway Dee! |
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Extreme SMF
Posts: 155
Location: SCOTLAND | Dee,
Thanks for your message, it's pretty amazing to hear directly from the sickest SMF on the planet!!
I understand completly your feelings on this subject and am glad to note that your a happier and more well adjusted DIRTBAG these days!! 
I've seen TS live in 04, 05 and this year in Glasgow and your intensity as a frontman has not diminished one bit, simply put you FUCKIN RULE!!
And when you supported Alice Cooper at the SECC last year the guy in the front row, at whom you had thousands of SMFS screaming, "FUCK YOU!", probably would'nt agree that the old DEE SNIDER hostility does'nt make an appearance these days!! 
Dee Snider: The Greatest Frontman Ever. FACT. Thanks for everything, LORNDOG. |
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Nearly A Band Member
Posts: 632
Location: Over the Rainbow. | Dee it don't last long we take care of the interlopers and leave em air conditioned. lol |
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Full-On SMF
Posts: 58
| Dee,
Saw you guys back in 1978 at the Fore "n" Aft , in Brewster, NY. 've been following the band ever since. Driving from Philly to see TS next week in Detriot(wife thinks I'm nuts). Everytime I see you guys, brings me back 25 years, and that same feeling will happen again, like always, in Detriot. Nobody gets the crowd going like you. I'l be the 6'5" guys wearing a YANKEE shirt.
A long time SMF,
John from philly!!!
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| Dee it takes a strong man to say something like you did, but did you forget... we are NOT JUST fans- we are a family, stronger then any Italian mafia! we are here not just because we love & respect each member of the band, but because we also love eachother and we will do anything to protect eachother, no matter if fellow fan or band member, we (the true fans) will strike down and kill any 'NON Twisted beliver!'. Our little disagreement's and silly arguements ALWAY'S goe's our way in the end because we fight for each other and We'll never let you down. I have seen many and joined in an attack on vermin, yet sometimes I never had to join, because there is always one who can win a fight, didn't you know your personality and influence joined with each member of the band rubs off on us? Dee we all love you, and we all adore the idea of contact with JJ, M.A.M, Eddie, A.J and yourself, all of your contacts and responses are soo important to us all, we need you because it makes us feel like we have something that EVERY other fan will never have- we have the real truth right from the horses mouth as well as .. Hmm, how can I explain it- it seem's like the member's that kept contact have become more like special friends- now that's something no other band will bother with!!!- we have a favourite band that are NOT too snobby to communicate with the fans directly. We love that, and it keeps us together and strong. Isn't that what being an S.M.F all about? |
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Serious SMF
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Location: UK | Well put Dee. It's terrible when you read negative comments about you or what you've accomplished in your life, most of the people that do that are just seeking attention. Remeber though man, it's only gonna be some pissant web geek that's leaving you negative messages. No SMF would ever do that.
SMF forever. |
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Extreme SMF
Posts: 168
Location: Chicago | Wow Dee, so nice to hear from you directly. I certainly respect your position. Though, it seems to me that your most loyal of fans (those on the slamboard) have nothing other than high praise for you and the band! I admire your position of ignoring the a**holes. Really, that's all anyone can do. Right?  ) Thank you for all that you give to us! |
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SMF 1st Class
Posts: 23
| Dear Dee
You are right the negative postings are bullshit just another asshole telling another lie. they are no true SMF they just like to make up shit cause they dont know what they are talking about. as for the people that just stands there and stares like an idiot needs the shit kicked out of him. if your a SMF dont just stand there jump,scream,sing along, just be the sick mutha fucker that you are! as you can get. i been a SMF from like 1988-my dying day
From Chris |
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Nearly A Band Member
Posts: 717
Location: Chicago | Hey Dee!
I completely understand where you're coming from! Every time I read a negative post on here, I usually just ignore it and move on. I do have a suggestion for all of the true SMF's out there regarding this, though.
DO NOT RESPOND TO THE NEGATIVE A-HOLE POSTINGS!!!!!
The problem is that the true SMF's always jump to the defense of the band, which is great!!! The problem with that, however, is every time someone responds to the A-hole, the friggin' post gets pushed all the way to the top of the list AGAIN!!!!! By responding, we are giving the A-hole exactly what he/she wants!! Simply ignore the email and have the strength to walk away without responding. Better yet! Start a new post that says something positive about the band. This will help push that bullshit post even further down the list and right off the page!!
There you go! Problem solved!
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Location: Graveyard BLVD. | Dee Snider - 2006-08-24 4:26 PM
Attention all S.M.F.’s,
Now back in the day, I thrived on that same anger and couldn’t wait for the next confrontation...but not anymore. After all those dysfunctional years, I’m enjoying being happy and well adjusted. But it doesn’t take much to set me off and bring me right back.
But it’s not as easy to do that with the Slam Board. One has to read a posting to find out its contents and by the time I realize that a posting is negative, I’m sucked into the message and wasting valuable time and energy on people who don’t even deserve to be acknowledged. If I don’t read the negative messages, their mission has failed. The only way to achieve this is to not read any messages at all.
I’m sorry for that. I know you love me. I love you guys, too. There’s just no other way. I hope you understand.
Once a S.M.F., always a S.M.F.,
Dee Snider 8/06
One word:
RIGHTEOUS!
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Extreme SMF
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Location: Dayton,Ohio | yes I understand ...I have been sucked into a few arguments to at another web site message board ...lifes too short to bicker with people you dont know and who's opinion means nothing!! You rock enough said some people get it and some people will never be free to truly Rock!! and from what I have heard from your sons Jesse and Cody the SNIDER name will be forever known in the rock world!!! I just cant explain how much I am rocking out to Baptized X Fire my god do they kick ass!!! and all I can say is this Twisted Sister thing to me is a religion!! there is nothing and I mean nothing that can make a bad day turn into a great day is Twisted Sister Music headphones and some T.S. just makes the world go away!! I told you in Tucson that your music was responsible for me being alive and well today and I thanked you for that now your music keeps the shitty days at bay!! thanks for that!!
stay sick ..God Bless ya!!
and thanks for everything.....
Twisted4evr!!
Ron........ |
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Extreme SMF
Posts: 132
| thanks for clearing that up dee.
cheers g. |
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Geek-in-Chief
Posts: 606
Location: Noo Yawk | There have been posts here that ask why the band doesn't post and interact more here - but as far as I'm concerned, TS interacts to a greater degree with their fans than any other band I know. The simple fact that the members of the band even show up here and post is a cut above what other bands do on their sites. To have the band and management come here and post is a great thing, even if it's only once in a while.
Most of us realize that you all have very busy lives, and posting here is not the highest item on your 'to-do' list.
But TS' involvement with the SMFs is legendary, and that's what has made the people here fans for years. From the first days of seeing the band on the NY club circuit, it was obvious that you guys have always taken what you do very seriously. That even thirty years down the road, you still strive to give the crowd every penny's worth of what they pay to see you says that it is more than just a gig.
I always described TS as a band on a mission - with an absolutely relentless desire to give the best show possible, like every show is both the first and last the crowd will ever see. I've never seen the band 'phone in' a show, ever. It is just a given that TS will rock the house, every time. I've brought people out to Bent Brother shows who never saw the band back in the club days, and the reaction is always the same - the words 'best show I've ever seen' are always spoken.
And while I remember being at Hammerhead's and hearing you tell the guys in the back of the crowd to do you a favor and unbutton their top shirt button, that's not a fight you can wage forever. Some top buttons will, at the end of the night, remain buttoned.
Which gets back to the idea of 'The Mission' - you demanded 100% of yourselves every time, and you demanded 100% of those who came to see you. That's what rock and roll is supposed to be - turning a building or room or festival into an event that leaves the band and crowd both going away with the knowledge that they became something bigger than a band and a crowd in a building.
And while you guys always went for 100%, maybe you have to settle for 99%. No shame in that - it's still a hell of a lot more than a lot of bands have achieved.
And just like there were the guys who would not unbutton that top button, there are people on message boards that will be negative rather than positive. Choosing not to drive yourself crazy with the negative is a wise choice, and the band has done so much for us SMFs.
Anyway, I'm rambling. But TS has always been about going above and beyond the call, and you've never let us down.
Thank you for everything.
- D |
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| wow! it's brilliant, absolutely wonderful that the GODFATHER of THE SMFS(I liked the "italian mafia" characterization for the smfs by an smf in this thread) got in contact with the people who love him, ADORE actually him and the band in general.
what I have to say about Dee's confession on the slamboard:I am surprised that you Dee, one of the greatest metal icons ever, give too much notice and attention on negative comments about you and your band.WHYYYYYYYYYY???  I know from your message that you've been doing this from the past but there's one thing that is unfortunately true: YOU SHOULD EXPECT THIS(=negative comments). do you know why? because since you took the decision to dress yourself in women's clothes back in years, you should know that a large number of people(and yes many metalheads)would never "forgive" you for that , no matter how great as a singer and artist you are.You are the greatest frontman that exists (objectively) now but this is still not enough for some people who are prejudiced and have certain ideas stuck in their minds.Unfortunately you but also my fellow smfs have to face the fact that the appearance of the decadent drag queen that you chose(I've never had problem with that although I admit I was shocked at first) have made you the black sheep of metal and a common target for negative comments.it is something that you and we the smfs have to bear.On the other hand, you should get in touch with your smfs more because we are the people who support you and your band. your songs are not just songs but many of them express a way of life.please, don't get pissed off with people who don't give you the credit you deserve. just ignore them.you should think that we(the smfs) are the "other side"=the people who looked beyond your weird looks and loved you and became your fans because you are a f***ing great band. we don't care what certain people say because they can't change our mind for you.I have written all these, having in mind that most of the negative comments on twisted sister I have heard or seen are for their weird, androgynous appearance on stage, that's at least 90% the source of them. DEE, DON'T GET HURT BY ANYTHING 'CAUSE WE, YOUR SMFS LOVE YOU. GET IN TOUCH WITH US MORE OFTEN BECAUSE THAT ELEVATES YOU MORE IN OUR MINDS |
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| by the way, don't expect to read any negative postings in this forum because they don't exist and only a very stupid person would register in the smf slamboard to talk sh*t about you |
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Elite SMF
Posts: 274
Location: Shropshire,UK | What a guy.
You ROCK man. |
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Nearly A Band Member
Posts: 513
Location: New Fuckin Yawk | Hey Dee,
Let me tell you something....it takes a real fuckin man to post a message like you did my friend. And believe me, it's ok by us real and true SMF's that you don't read or post anything on this board. We all know how much it hurts us to see negative crap at shows or even on this slamboard. This slamboard was put in place for us fans, the SMF's who talk about Twisted Sister related things. Althought Jay Jay, Danny Stanton, MAM, and on occassion Eddie chose to post on this board, they don't have to. But the reality is they are SMF's just like the rest of us. And you, Dee, are the biggest SMF of them all. You don't have to post or rwad anything.
I know all about negativity and the anger you mentioned. I remember the heydey of the band....and man all I ever heard out of your mouth was a curse word. But see, I thrived on that back then because like you Dee, I was a very angry person. And I think I speak for alot of people who are TS fans when I say anger!
Todays shows to me are by far way better than the shows of yesteryear simply because I see all 5 of you having fun on stage and performing for all the SMF's who want to be there.
In closing, you were very gracious to come on this slamboard and post what you really thought. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with it. We all wish we would hear more from you, but of course you have made your choice, and we all accept it.
I'll see you Monday in Detroit!
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Extreme SMF
Posts: 154
| Dee - please just play somewhere in NY before you throw in the towel. If not, it was great while it lasted. Take care... Doctor oooh oooh!! |
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SMF 1st Class
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| I just read Dee's message and I wonder WHY we the SMFs who are the best fans in the world and our precious Dee Snider receive crap and negativity by some a##holes.What have we done to deserve that...can anybody answer?Dee, don't hesitate to post in the slamboard because of the fear of the appearance of some a##hole talking crap-something I haven't seen happening in this forum up to now as far as I know-We want you to communicate with all of us, your SMFs We don't give a dime about what some a##holes think.We will remain SMFs even if the whole world turns against us.Besides, all bands receive negativity by some.Maybe Twisted sister receive more because of the reasons SMFKahn2 mentions...Idon't know...Has anubody an answer? |
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Nearly A Band Member
Posts: 2072
| Dee
It was great to hear from you directly. I understand what you are saying, but as you have always said you can't let the negative people run your life. I hope we hear more from you in the future. Thank you for everything you have done in the past and will do in the future. We wish you the very best. |
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SMF 1st Class
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Location: Rochdale, UK | I must admit to being a little negative about the Christmas Album, but at the end of the day I'm a fan, I'll buy the CD and judge it on it's merits.
I fully understand you wanting to quit whilst you're ahead, and from a fans point of view, if you do decide that you're bored and want to do another tour or album, then at least with things harmonious between the band its a lot easier to get the ball rolling.
What we, as fans, have to realise is that if the band isn't having fun then it's gonna be a shite gig. |
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Elite SMF
Posts: 220
Location: BARCELONA | Nice to read this post from you, the only one and so great frontman DEE SNIDER. We all love to you and to the band without conditions. All you show in your performances what awesome you are and why you are here after 30 years... there are no words to explain what feel an SMF when you are performing on stage... just like to be listening and seeing the Gods of the R'N'R. What you decide is ok for us, we understand perfectly the reasons you have and we all will support all you decide if that makes you feel fine. That's is the most important. Well.. to be totally honest... the only one thing I would not accept so fine, It would be to hear the band stop to play...I am sure all my fellows SMF will share this thought with me. Anyway I hope to happen this... still has to pass a lotsssss of years! Hugs, Yolanda Twisted 4ever, 4ever Twisted!
Edited by Yolanda-SPAIN 2006-08-28 5:44 PM
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Nearly A Band Member
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Location: on a Twisted planet | Dee my man, i saw you live on my birthday 3 days ago in Bulgaria, i saw you on the back door leaving the van and i was the guy who shouted after you: DEE DEE, DEE !!! ))
It was just me !!!
I respect your thinkin' on this like the other REAL SMF's do.....
Thank you for all the precious moments and we'll keep on doing it the same way, i surely hope so !!!
You're in our hearts man..............btw, u kicked ass in Bulgaria |
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A message from Dee Snider (that's right--SMF #1)
