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Armadillo
Posted 2011-06-20 11:40 PM (#27907)
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Need some advice here from any SMFs who live or travel in Finland.

So it seems that getting from Helsinki to Kotka then back to Helsinki and on to Oulu is quite difficult BUT not impossible...

Does anyone have ANY experience with the rails in Finland?
The train connection that I'll need to make in order to catch a plane in time for the show in Oulu, means that I have 14 minutes to make that connecting train in Kovola.

Questions:
Are the trains on time?
How difficult is it to navigate the train station? How likely am I to miss the connection? If I miss the flight, I very well could possibly miss the show....

Thanks SMFS!
Kennet (FIN)
Posted 2011-06-21 1:51 AM (#27908 - in reply to #27907)
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Hi Armadillo,

If you wanna go by train this will be your possibilities, the trains are usually on time in the summer, but you never know, those Pendolino trains seems to have lots of problems at least int he winter...

07:28 Kotka 08:11 Kouvola Taajamajuna 351
08:18 Kouvola 09:20 Tikkurila Pendolino 70
09:46 Tikkurila 14:44 Vihanti Pendolino 245
14:50 Vihanti 15:55 Oulu Bus
Changes: 3 Total Time: 8:27

Or:
07:28 Kotka 08:11 Kouvola Taajamajuna 351
08:32 Kouvola 09:32 Tikkurila Pendolino 2
09:46 Tikkurila 14:44 Vihanti Pendolino 245
14:50 Vihanti 15:55 Oulu Bus
Changes: 3 Total Time: 8:27

That will cost you 78:40 euros one way.


BUT, you can also go by flight from Helsinki to Oulu:

30-07-2011
Helsinki 12:40
Oulu 13:40

31-07-2011
Oulu 17:35
Helsinki 18:35


Total price, both ways: 132 €

Check out:
www.Bravofly.com


if you take the flight you will just need to take the train from Kotka to Tikkurila, then a cab to the airport, it is just 15 minutes away, or you can also take bus 61, the bus goes 4 times each hour from Tikkurila to the Airport.

http://aikataulut.hsl.fi/linjat/en/v61.html

See you in Oulu!

/Kennet




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Posted 2011-06-21 2:49 AM (#27910 - in reply to #27907)
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I would recommend flying, it'll take the whole day by train from Kotka to Oulu.. Trains should be on time, but it's a long journey.
Armadillo
Posted 2011-06-21 8:06 PM (#27923 - in reply to #27907)
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Thank you very much. Yes, the issue with trains from Kotka to Oulu is the time-- 8 hours, which means I miss the show! First show in Kotka is July 29th, the 2nd show is Oulu on the 30th! (dammit, why why why so close together!!!)

I am going to take the train to Kotka for the July 29th show,

I need to catch a 12:30 pm flight to Oulu.....so that means the first train back in the am on the 30th.
Here's the scary part for me--I have to switch trains and the website gave me a warning that there is only a 14 minute window to switch trains, I'm worried about missing the train....then missing the flight.... then the show.....

Should I try to take the later flight and later train? I think it can get me to Oulu by 4:30pm, which should give me a small window to get to the show....
Armadillo
Posted 2011-06-21 8:08 PM (#27924 - in reply to #27908)
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Hey Kennet
Is there an airport in Tikkurila? Or is that closer to Helsinki airport?

This is by far, the most challenging travel I've ever had to book! The travel agents I visited were unable to book entire legs of my trip, so I'm doing a lot of this blindly.

thanks for all of your help.
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Posted 2011-06-22 2:50 AM (#27926 - in reply to #27907)
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One option is to take bus from Kotka, which is actually more direct route than the train. It'll even take you directly to Helsinki-Vantaa airport, however you need to switch the bus once. You can check the timetables etc. from www.expressbus.fi
Kennet (FIN)
Posted 2011-06-23 4:19 PM (#27936 - in reply to #27924)
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Yes, Tikkurila is much closer to Helsinki airport than Helsinki Central Train station, so if you go by train from Kotka I suggest that you jump of there.

But as mentioned you can also take the bus, the bus starts at 9:20 from Kotka and arrives to the Airport at 11:15. One bus change is needed.

I hope you get your trip booked!

Armadillo
Posted 2011-06-24 8:50 PM (#27945 - in reply to #27936)
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Many thanks Kennet!

I'm all booked for Finland--just need to work out the bus trips (can't buy from the US so I'll have to buy when I get there)
and I haven't booked my hotels yet but should do that soon.

I'm arriving in Helsinki on July 27th in the am. 8:50AM, and I'll be taking the bus to Kotka on the 28th--haven't figured when yet. One way or another, I'll be in Kotka on July 29th for the show. Then I'll take an early bus back on July 30th (oh the pain!) from Kotka to Helsinki Airport, then catch a 12:30pm plane to Oulu. I'll fly back from Oulu to Helsinki on July 31st. Then a day to play in Helsinki on August 1st, and I fly home on the 2nd.

Gonna be great! I can tell already!
Armadillo
Posted 2011-06-26 10:33 AM (#27952 - in reply to #27945)
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Hey Kennet

Any hotel suggestions near the concert locations?

I tried one hotel so far in Kotka but it is completely booked the night of the show :-( can't seem to find other hotels in Kotka online. thoughts?
Kennet (FIN)
Posted 2011-06-26 3:31 PM (#27953 - in reply to #27952)
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All hotels in Kotka seems to be completely booked the day when Twisted is playing, the best I could find is two hotels aboud 10km's away from Kotka,
I have never been in Kotka so I can't really say anything about the hotels and locations there.

http://www.booking.com/searchresults.html?src=searchresults&city=-1372348&order=popularity&ssne=Kotka&error_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.booking.com%2Fsearchresults.en-gb.html%3Fsid%3Df6c7392cae6bb8149b5ab468ab41421e%3Bcheckin_monthday%3D29%3Bcheckin_year_month%3D2011-7%3Bcheckout_monthday%3D30%3Bcheckout_year_month%3D2011-7%3Bcity%3D-1372348%3Bclass_interval%3D1%3Bclear_group%3D1%3Bgroup_adults%3D1%3Bgroup_children%3D0%3Boffset%3D0%3Border%3Dlast_booking%3Bscore_min%3D0%3Bsi%3Dai%252Cco%252Cci%252Cre%252Cdi%3Bsrc%3Dsearchresults%3Bss_all%3D0%3Bssb%3Dempty%3Bcountry%3Dfi%3Bradius%3D55%3B&lang=en-gb&sid=f6c7392cae6bb8149b5ab468ab41421e&si=ai%2Cco%2Cci%2Cre%2Cdi&ss=Kotka&radius=15&checkin_monthday=29&checkin_year_month=2011-7&checkout_monthday=30&checkout_year_month=2011-7&group_adults=1&group_children=0&clear_group=1


In Oulu the situation is much better, at least 7 hotels that got rooms. Radisson Blu is closest to the festival area, but also the most expensive hotel,
Cumulus, Scandic and Holiday In are all within 1km from the festival, me, my GF and a few friends got rooms on Scandic and we will walk from the hotel to the festival area.

http://www.hotels.com/search.do?destination=Oulu%2C+Finland&searchParams.arrivalDate=30%2F07%2F2011&searchParams.departureDate=31%2F07%2F2011&rooms=1&searchParams.rooms[0].numberOfAdults=1&children[0]=0&asaReport=HomePage%3A%3ANoSuggest&destinationId=&searchParams.landmark=&hotelId=&searchParams.resolvedLocation=destination%3A478390%3AEXACT_RED%3AHIGH


Hopefully the links works :)

/Kennet

Edited by Kennet (FIN) 2011-06-26 3:36 PM
Armadillo
Posted 2011-06-26 7:17 PM (#27955 - in reply to #27907)
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Thanks again Kennet I owe you a beer!

I had no problem booking a room in Oulu (I'm staying at the Cumulus--seemed pretty close to the venue)
Having very poor luck with Kotka. Apparently, there's a big sea festival that same weekend, and everything is booked solid. I've got a room held in Siltakyla, at the Hotel Villa Vanessa. Hopefully not too far from the show site! I'm sure there are taxis and such, yes?

Can't buy bus tickets from the US but it sounds like I can do that there fairly easily.... can't wait to see Finland--it looks amazing!



Edited by Armadillo 2011-06-26 7:23 PM
J.Skogberg
Posted 2011-07-08 4:45 AM (#28032 - in reply to #27907)
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Minä myös aion kokea molemmat TS:n keikat.
Lähdetään vaimon kanssa Kangasalta Kotkaan ajeleen, siellä helvetin hyvä keikka->ajellaan takaisin kotiin, vaimo nukkumaan minä töihin.
Töistä suoraan junalla Ouluun velipojan kanssa. Onneksi siellä on hotellihuone varattu

I don´t know how to write that in english
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